Lots of thanks to everyone for suggestions for the Adobe CC alternatives list.

Here it is, let me know if there's anything you want added/corrected:


(Natron looks good too but it seems to be no longer maintained, and its official website's certificate has expired.)

#Adobe #CreativeCloud

@switchingsocial how about alternatives for audio/podcasting?


Good point!

I forgot to add any audio :O

Has anyone got any recommendations?

@switchingsocial @Joe Audio like recording (i.e. DAWs)?

Audacity (more lightweight/simple) and Ardour (full featured DAW) are the first that come to mind, personally.

@kithop @Joe

This is for the "alternatives to Adobe CC" page so alternatives to Audition, I guess.


@Joe @switchingsocial Yeah, in that case probably Ardour. I still use Pro Tools personally (more music stuff than podcasts), but there are a couple other open source ones listed here I hadn't heard of:


@kithop @switchingsocial I think ardour is way too complicated for most podcasts.

@Joe @switchingsocial It's.. not as polished, no. Again, this is why I still use Pro Tools, too.

I *have* mixed a track in Ardour, but it's not Ardour that's the problem - it's JACK.

Maybe Ardour on macOS is better because honestly, Apple got things *right* with CoreAudio; Pulseaudio and JACK are atrocious by comparison.

But for FLOSS on Linux, I'm not sure.

@kithop @switchingsocial yeah, there are many Linux audio issues. I like Hindenburg for the simplicity. But then it is not working in Linux either :(

@Joe @kithop

Alternatives don't have to be for Linux, Win or Mac alternatives are ok too.

Main thing is they're free and open.

@switchingsocial @kithop ok but not all your alternative are free. I use fastmail, which is an option on SS and isn't free.

@Joe @kithop

I know, but sometimes (especially with online services) I have to bend the rules a bit to get a least-worst option.

@switchingsocial @kithop fair enough. I quite like fastmail, it's a decent choice I think.

@Joe @switchingsocial @kithop also JACK I p great but hard to get in to. I like the possibility of real-time routing and processing without needing a DAW.

@Joe @switchingsocial @kithop it is complicated, but hecking fast :P

Complexity can be lessened using KXStudios Cadence application

@Clipsey My issue with JACK is that it just straight up never supported my mixer properly (Behringer X32 over USB), and would chew up something like 30-40% CPU power just... running + connected, trying to hit low latency targets.

It was a lot of messing around with buffer sizes to minimize latency without getting buffer underruns, and at the time (which *was* a few years ago, now), bad latency made its way into the DAW(!!!) without any sort of correction.

@Clipsey So you'd record your first track, all is well. You record your second track, monitoring the 1st one, and you *swear* you played in time with that first one, but it feels... kinda off...

By the fourth and fifth track, you start to realise that if your JACK latency is ~50ms, then everything you're recording is ~50ms behind your monitoring and you have to manually nudge it all back over by hand.

I hope it's better now, but ugh - that forced me to put it in 're-review in a couple years'.

@kithop idk I don’t use that device, with my presonus audio box iOne and my midi keyboard I have very low input latency in Bitwig Studio.

@Clipsey I'm assuming by now they've solved the latency thing by correcting it in there automatically, too (at least I'd hope).

I might give it all another try once I get back into recording stuff again, but it was definitely a huge step back from CoreAudio's literal 'just plug it in and go'. That was one of the huge things Apple excelled at 10 years ago. No config files, no manually starting/stopping services, no multiple audio layers like ALSA/OSS/Pulse/JACK, just... ignore it and it works.

@kithop idk last time I tried core audio (on a hackintosh) it fried the audio chip lol.

I prefer configurability over plug and play, which is where JACK really shines.

@kithop @switchingsocial so what about alternatives to iTunes? Simpler, I guess, as there are various podcatchers if one has a feed

@Joe @switchingsocial Playback, like iTunes, with Podcast support (i.e. pulling from RSS feeds and such)

@kithop @switchingsocial oh right, yeah I see what you mean. I guess there are lots of ap based podcatchers too. I like radiopublic but that's not OS.

@kithop @switchingsocial there ought to be some kind of federated thing for audio..

@switchingsocial @kithop @funkwhale haha, never heard of that! I guess that could have an instance with podcasts

@switchingsocial @Joe @kithop yes! Funkwhale will happily accept any audio you upload (assuming the audio file has at least an Artist, Album and Title tag), but non-musical content won't be advertised at such right now :)

@funkwhale @switchingsocial @kithop how does it work? Could I have a funkwhale instance of just spoken podcasts?

@Joe @switchingsocial @kithop basically yes.

Funkwhale instances accept one or multiple users. If you join an existing instance, like open.audio, you'd have to request some storage space to upload your work.

If you set up your own instance, you can of course do what you want, but regardless of your choice, if you share your work publicly, it will be eventually federated to other instance, and embeddable via an Iframe on third-party websites

@funkwhale @switchingsocial @kithop ah ok. Not sure I have the funds to host my own but it is an interesting idea.

@Joe @switchingsocial @kithop if your content is under an open license, you can sign up on open.audio , give me your username and I'll grant you some storage space to try the whole concept :)

@funkwhale @switchingsocial @kithop I don't have any content. And even if I did, the license would have to be with creators.

Can you access the MP3 files and auto generate RSS feed files for podcasts?
@Joe @switchingsocial @kithop

@dheadshot @Joe @switchingsocial @kithop you can access and download the source files, but we don't generate the RSS that would enable podcasting support yet :)

I'm writing a free podcatcher, but there are lots already. What we need is an Open Podcast Directory that provides the RSS feeds directly and stops these walled-garden podcast platforms springing up!
@kithop @switchingsocial

Is that a good alternative to Cubase? I tried LMMS, but that seems more like GarageBand and thus less what I want...
@Joe @switchingsocial

@dheadshot I've not used Cubase before so I can't really say... I know Ardour is supposed to compete more with Pro Tools. Less loop/FX-related stuff, more tracking + mixing live audio I think. @Joe @switchingsocial

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